{"id":1707,"date":"2010-03-16T11:18:28","date_gmt":"2010-03-16T15:18:28","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/dwan.org\/?p=1707"},"modified":"2020-04-11T14:30:33","modified_gmt":"2020-04-11T18:30:33","slug":"of-primitives-savages-and-our-obligation-thereto","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/dwan.org\/index.php\/2010\/03\/16\/of-primitives-savages-and-our-obligation-thereto\/","title":{"rendered":"Of primitives, savages, and our obligation thereto"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>I lost an argument the other day &#8211; and it&#8217;s bugging me.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>It&#8217;s not so much that I lost, since we weren&#8217;t really arguing &#8211; as that I let it get away from me because I was pushing on two different ideas at once. I let myself get all confused and failed to make any point at all.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>So here&#8217;s idea one: <strong>&#8220;There exist people for whom religious belief makes it is easier to lead a happy, good life.&#8221;<\/strong> Note that I&#8217;m not talking about child rape, bigotry, dark and hidden political agendas, the phrase &#8220;in God we trust&#8221; on the currency, or any of the usual woes that beset organized religion. I&#8217;m talking about faith in a non-empirically-provable god or gods. My observation is that (a) it&#8217;s possible to decouple belief from a lot of the badness of organized religion, and (b) some folks find it easier to face their lives with God at their back.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Personally, I do not. I do observe a correlation between faith and people who are less stuck in their heads than I am &#8211; who are less academic, and perhaps less unhappy if their pencils are not perfectly aligned on their desk. Note that I am specifically not saying &#8220;smarter&#8221; people or &#8220;people farther along the path&#8221; or anything judgmental like that. Some people don&#8217;t like bitter flavors, some do. Some are happier if the pencils are perfectly aligned, and some don&#8217;t care. Some people find that faith makes it easier to get along &#8211; some do not.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>With that said, here&#8217;s idea two: <strong>&#8220;I think that organized religion has some really valuable properties in terms of lifting societies out of chaos and into a stable state.&#8221;<\/strong> I&#8217;m thinking specifically about Haiti here &#8211; the fact that after decades of aid &#8211; the country is still struggling.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>My observation is that external aid is really hard to do effectively &#8211; since you tend to get people hooked on your largess. Similarly, I begin to think that we may have done Haiti a disservice by knocking over dictator after dictator. Where they are right now is chaos. Would order, even under an exploitative regime, be better than that? Religion splits the difference. As I&#8217;ve observed it in practice down there, religion is about a community saying &#8220;we will be better than this &#8211; we will be better than we are right now &#8211; and we will do it for ourselves.&#8221; It&#8217;s inspiring to watch a community build a church out of the mud. It&#8217;s stunning to watch them use that church as an anchor for a school, a clinic, and so on.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Somehow, between those two thoughts I let myself get all confused and dragged into the question of whether Haiti was somehow morally and intellectually inferior to the US &#8211; and thus not equipped for my highfalutin god free existence. That wasn&#8217;t my point at all.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I lost an argument the other day &#8211; and it&#8217;s bugging me. It&#8217;s not so much that I lost, since we weren&#8217;t really arguing &#8211; as that I let it get away from me because I was pushing on two different ideas at once. I&hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[45],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1707","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-politics-blog"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/dwan.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1707","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/dwan.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/dwan.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/dwan.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/dwan.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1707"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/dwan.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1707\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1709,"href":"https:\/\/dwan.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1707\/revisions\/1709"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/dwan.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1707"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/dwan.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1707"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/dwan.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1707"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}